Hello all,
Shelly Hermia Bhujun <shelly_hermia_at_hotmail.com>, 2016-01-09 14.55:
> I am sorry if Nirvan seemed disrespectful Yusuf. I appreciate the
fact that you responded and shared your thoughts
I appreciate your concern, but I would like to appeal that you please
refrain from apologising when the original complaint was not addressed
to you. It creates the perception of bias, specially since the complaint
was done by a member to another member.
Muhammad Yusuf ABDOOL SATAR <fx_at_fluxy.net>, 2016-01-09 12.06:
> From a logical perspective, this would imply that:
> - either you possess “lots of psychological understanding” – which
brings into relevance S. Moonesamy's question “Are there any guidelines,
e.g. a code of ethics, which you studied? If so, could you please
provide a link to the document?”
> - or one of the following:
> + logo design does not involve a lot of psychological understanding
> + logo design involves a lot of psychological understanding but
you design logos while skipping the psychological aspect
> + you do not practice logo design
Shelly Hermia Bhujun <shelly_hermia_at_hotmail.com>, 2016-01-09 14.55:
> I personally think it is a thread open to all the subscribers and
they should feel comfortable to share their ideas about the MIU Logo.
The above reply seems disrespectful and I can feel some disagreement
targeting design related people and technical people. Let us please
avoid the clash.
I fail to understand how what I said could be considered as
disrespectful, since I only expressed what was said in a logical
perspective [1]. At no point was reference made to “design related
people and technical people” – to a certain extent I am myself a
technical person.
My aim was not to cause a clash, but rather to highlight the futility
and condescending tone of the following comment, from an impartial,
non-emotional and logical perspective:
Tejas (Nirvan) Pagooah <t_at_graphicstemple.io>, 2016-01-08 13.48:
> Logo design involves lots of psychological understanding.
This was done to express my discomfort when sharing my ideas in the
thread which I felt seemed less open with regards to the tone and
content of the reply received.
> We have subscribers with difference background and I believe this is
a strong element for the Mauritius Internet Users mailing list. Having a
logo that's going to make everybody happy is a real challenge. Nirvan
managed to help us by sharing some logo proposals. There has been
constructive feedback so far by some subscribers. I encourage those
interested in sharing their opinion to help Nirvan by discussing more
about it and to help him.
Indeed Nirvan is the only one to have made actual logo proposals. His
contribution deserves our recognition and thanks. At no point have I
expressed otherwise although I believe a less aggressive tone would
serve him better.
> Looking forward to read more on the MIU logo thread :)
As do I. Please accept my sincere apologies if I have sidetracked this
discussion.
[1]
http://people.umass.edu/klement/100/logic.html
Regards,
❱ Muhammad Yusuf ABDOOL SATAR
– ❝Vitae Non Scholae Discendum❞
✍ fx_at_fluxy.net
☕ Web Developer, Free Thinker
On 1/9/16 2:55 PM, Shelly Hermia Bhujun wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> > Tejas (Nirvan) Pagooah <t_at_graphicstemple.io>, 2016-01-08 13.48:
> > > I guess this comment was useful enough compared to the other ones :)
> > This could be considered disrespectful.
>
> I am sorry if Nirvan seemed disrespectful Yusuf. I appreciate the fact
> that you responded and shared your thoughts
> on the MIU logo. I shall elaborate more when I ask subscribers for an
> opinion in order to avoid misunderstandings.
>
> > Tejas (Nirvan) Pagooah <t_at_graphicstemple.io>, 2016-01-08 13.48:
> > > I will write a separate email to describe the logo/emblem in details.
>
> > The point being that a logo should ideally not require a detailed
> > description to be understood and recognized.
>
> From what I understood (if I got it right) some subscribers would like
> a logo which would represent the Mauritius Internet
> Users without even having to read the description or the logo name. It
> should be something simple and catchy. I should have asked for more
> details as it would have helped Nirvan to understand the logo
> requirements which I failed to provide. I apologies for that.
>
> > Tejas (Nirvan) Pagooah <t_at_graphicstemple.io>, 2016-01-08 13.48:
> > > Logo design involves lots of psychological understanding.
>
> > From a logical perspective, this would imply that:
> > - either you possess “lots of psychological understanding” – which
> > brings into relevance S. Moonesamy's question “Are there any guidelines,
> > e.g. a code of ethics, which you studied? If so, could you please
> > provide a link to the document?”
>
> I personally think it is a thread open to all the subscribers and they
> should feel comfortable to share their ideas about the MIU Logo. The
> above reply seems disrespectful and I can feel some disagreement
> targeting design related people and technical people. Let us please
> avoid the clash.
>
> We have subscribers with difference background and I believe this is a
> strong element for the Mauritius Internet Users mailing list. Having a
> logo that's going to make everybody happy is a real challenge. Nirvan
> managed to help us by sharing some logo proposals. There has been
> constructive feedback so far by some subscribers. I encourage those
> interested in sharing their opinion to help Nirvan by discussing more
> about it and to help him.
>
> Looking forward to read more on the MIU logo thread :)
>
> Kind regards,
> Shelly
>
>
Received on Mon Jan 11 2016 - 14:05:05 PST