Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 22:41:00 +0400
Hello all,
I have raised this question before, and it seems that MCCI, an organization
that does not represent the interests of my company, or the majority of web
and registrar companies who are selling .MU domains is intent on forcing the
MCCI model for the non-profit entity.
I therefore believe that the MCCI should resign immediately from this
committee, and allow a true multi-stakeholder forum to drive a
consensus-driven model for the non-profit entity.
Anything less, is plainly unacceptable. The MCCI has committed too many
blunders.
If this continues, I strongly believe that the representative of MCCI should
resign from MCCI.
Regards,
Tejas (Nirvan) Pagooah
CTO at Graphics Temple Ltd,
Twitter <http://www.twitter.com/Nirvanknight> / Facebook
<http://www.facebook.com/Nirvanknight> / LinkedIn
<http://mu.linkedin.com/pub/tejas-pagooah/45/27b/a9a/>
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Subject: Re: Amended Note of Meeting for Multi-Stakeholder Forum held on 22
April 2015
Dear Mr. Gorden,
I have some concerns about the amended Note of Meeting for Multi-Stakeholder
Forum which was held on Wednesday 22 April 2015.
Section 2.3:
Mr. Moonesamy make the presentation in his capacity as chair of the .MU
Select Committee.
Section 4.1:
1. The .MU Select Commitee did not agree about the creation of a .MU
council. What was proposed was the creation of a non-profit organisation.
2. Mr Moonesamy did not mention having an equal status in the setting
up of a .MU council.
3. He did not mention that all stakeholders would be able to
participate in the decision making process of the .MU council.
4. What he proposed out was that the ministry of TCI would have to
implement amendments to the ICT Act 2001, please refer to the slides of Mr.
Moonesamy.
Section 4.2:
I was a member of the .MU Select Commitee as the representative of the .MU
Registrars, the .MU Select Commitee never agreed:
1. For the creation of the .MU council.
2. For the .MU council to be responsible for the .MU policy.
The report of the .MU Select Commitee did mention of a local setup with an
escrow at the international level.
The .MU Select Commitee recommended that the technical setup to be
operational within 6 months given that .MU is a single point of failure.
There is no mention that the process of the technical aspect might take much
time.
The .MU Select Commitee never recommend that the Multi-Stakeholder Forum
would elect the members to sit on the .mu Council.
During the discussion of the .MU Select Commitee, Mr G. Ramalingum and Mr.
T. Dabeesing were in favour of hiring Mr Chris Disspain as a Consultant as
he is a board member of ICANN. I raised a concern about that as it is a
conflict of interest and it would harm the case of redelegation of the .MU.
During the last meeting of the Multi-Stakeholder Forum, Mr. T. Dabeesing
again proposed hiring Mr. Chris Disspain as a Consultant. Mr. S. Moonesamy
raised a formal objection about the matter and requested that his objection
be recorded in the minutes. Mr. N. Sookun and I also objected to hiring a
board member of ICANN as a consultant.
During the discussion of the .MU Select Commitee, Mr. S. Moonesamy pointed
out that the cost on the technical setup as proposed by the ICTA was of an
astronomical amount (Over 13 million rupees). I do not understand why Mr.
T. Dabeesing is insisting on hiring a foreign consultant as he asked Mr. S.
Moonesamy and I to work on the Technical proposal of the .MU Registry and we
managed to reduce the cost by half.
Section 4.3:
There was strong discussion about the matter of hiring the proposed foreign
consultant. At the end of the discussion, Mr. S. Moonesamy suggested leaving
the decision to the non-profit entity as such entity would be responsible
for the implemention of the proposal.
Section 4.4:
I don't recall Mr. Radhakissoon mentioning the name of the .MU council.
Section 4.5:
The representative of Mauritius Telecom did not mention the name of the .MU
council.
Section 4.8:
There was no mentioned:
1. that the .MU Council needs to be based on a tripartite system
consisting of Public-Private-Civil society.
2. that Government would have to be part of the .mu Council.
3. that membership to the .mu Forum would be left open and not
restricted.
Mr G. Ramalingum recommended that the association follows the model of the
Mauritius Chamber of Commerce and Industry (MCCI). It is surprising that Mr
G. Ramalingum did not disclose the fact that he is currently a member of the
council of MCCI and I'm concern that there is a conflict of interest and
that there wasn't any disclosure of this interest.
There was disccusion between Mr. S. Moonesamy and Mr. G. Ramalingum about
whether the MCCI was open to everyone in Mauritius and whether the MCCI
operates in a transparent manner. Mr. G. Ramalingum replied that it is
transparent as it has a website.
There was no mention about accountability towards the internet community
during the meeting.
There wasn't any statement about the consultant would come up with an
holistic picture of what would be the best business model.
There was no mention during the meeting that the technical registry would be
hosted at the Mauritius Internet Exchange Point (MIXP). The permanent
secretary of the ministry proposed that the foreign consultant would be paid
by the ICTA. I'm surprise that the representative of the ICTA did not raise
any issue about that given that the ICTA is supposed to be an independant
body.
There was no mention of seed money to setup the technical registry.
The permanent secretary of the ministry announced that the government is in
negociation with Yann Kwok (Internet Direct Ltd) to buy the gov.mu domain
for 18 million rupees. Mr. Lim, representative of Mauritius Telecom asked if
it is even possible to buy gov.mu. Mr. G. Ramalingum proposed that it is
cheaper to buy a General Top Level Domain (gTLD) from ICANN. I doubt that
the Government or Mr. G. Ramalingum know the criteria about the obtention of
a gTLD.
Section 5.0:
The permanent secretary of the ministry proposed 3 legal persons to work-out
the legal framework. There was no mention about Mr G. Ramlingum to be part
of this sub-Commitee. It is strange that this sub-Commitee now has 2 persons
of MCCI.
There are two associations in Mauritius which claim to be the Internet
Society:
1. http://isoc.mauritius.name/articles
2. https://www.facebook.com/groups/isocmauritius/
Which one of them is working on this sub-Commitee?
The Multi-Stakeholder Forum never agreed to a recommendation to hire an
expert to provide assistance and help the Multi-Stakeholder Forum to chart
the way forward.
Of the 20 members present at the last meeting, 8 were from the Government.
There were 2 members from a company and 1 member from a university in
Mauritius in which Government has its representative. It is clear that any
vote from this forum would be in favour of the Government. Further more it
is strange that the ICTA which is a regulatory body is insisting on adopting
its proposal for a .MU council when the local internet community is strongly
against this model. It creates a perception that Government wants total
control of the .MU registry. Further more, the organisations including the
Government, ISPs and the university of Mauritius represented in the
Multi-Stakeholder Forum do not have addequate technical expertise according
to their representative. I'm concern how this Multi-Stakeholder Forum can
take decision about the .MU ccTLD.
Best Regards,
Benoit Gentil
Director
59 Sir Celicourt Antelme Avenue
Quatre Bornes
Mauritius
Tel: (230) 466 0065
Mob : (230) 5250 2696
Fax : (230) 466 0017
Website: <http://www.fodytechnologies.com/> www.fodytechnologies.com
On 06/05/2015 14:27, Praidy Gorden wrote:
My Ref: MTCI/58/2/4 V2
Dear Sir/Madam,
Please find attached, for appropriate action(s), the amended Note of Meeting
for Multi-Stakeholder Forum on Internet Governance held on Wednesday 22
April 2015.
Thanks & Regards,
Mr. Praidy Gorden
for Permanent Secretary
Ministry of Technology, Communication and Innovation
Level 4, New Government Centre
Port Louis
Mauritius
Tel: +(230) 201 3825 Fax: +(230) 201 2119
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Subject: Note of Meeting for Multi-Stakeholder Forum held on 22 April 2015
Importance: High
My Ref: MTCI/58/2/4 V2
Dear Sir/Madam,
Please find attached, for appropriate action(s), the Note of Meeting for
Multi-Stakeholder Forum on Internet Governance held on Wednesday 22 April
2015.
Thanks & Regards,
Mr. Praidy Gorden
for Permanent Secretary
Ministry of Technology, Communication and Innovation
Level 4, New Government Centre
Port Louis
Mauritius
Tel: +(230) 201 3825 Fax: +(230) 201 2119
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Subject: Meeting on Multi-Stakeholder Forum
Importance: High
My Ref: MICT/58/2/4 V2
Dear Sir/Madam,
You are kindly invited to attend the next meeting of the Multi-Stakeholder
Forum to be chaired by Mr J. Phokeer, Permanent Secretary at the Ministry of
Technology, Communication and Innovation as follows:
Date : Wednesday, 22 April 2015
Time : 10.00 hrs
Venue : Conference Room
Ministry of Technology, Communication and Innovation
Level 4, New Government Centre
Port Louis
Agenda: To discuss about (i) the Proposal of the .mu Select Committee for
the .mu ccTLD Framework (see attachment - Annex 1); and
(ii) the .mu Select Committee -
Technical Proposal (see attachment - Annex 2).
Kindly confirm your attendance by return mail.
Thanks & Regards,
Mr. Praidy Gorden
for Permanent Secretary
Ministry of Technology, Communication and Innovation
Level 4, New Government Centre
Port Louis
Mauritius
Tel: +(230) 201 3825 Fax: +(230) 201 2119
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