Hi,
I share the same view too. I am not directing this comment at any person
in particular, but as a general whole. Some of the mails i've seen
flying around are, quite frankly, juvenile, lack maturity and I believe
this reflects very badly on the group as a whole. I think some things
are a bit 'over-the-top' with some comments being quite personal, thus
lacking professionalism. I think things can be discussed in a bit more
civilised manner.
My opinion
Dhiruj
On 15/06/2015 11:50, Daniel Laeng wrote:
>
> Hi Ish,
>
> From your answers, I think I can conclude that you're happy with the
> quality of emails from MIU members to officials of various types (and
> you are allowed to be). The recipients of some of those mails have
> expressed a different view, and currently I side with them.
>
> The MIU is young and needs to build it's reputation. I'd like to see
> it have a reputation for bringing carefully thought out arguments, and
> technical expertise and a fair representation of the Mauritian
> public. I would prefer it didn't have a reputation for
> enabling/encouraging members to send low quality emails to various
> government and non-government representatives.
>
>> Spam would be sending irrelevant emails to a large number of users
>> (as targets). The emails on the mailing list were neither irrelevant
>> nor sent to a large number of users.
> Spam is also often used in a broader definition of "unwanted email".
> That's how I'm using it in this instance. Please mentally replace all
> references of "spam" to "unwanted email".
>
> I personally tend to react fairly negatively towards any organisation
> that enables people to fill my inbox with unwanted emails. The MIU
> generates a lot of emails, and we need to be careful that the ones
> reaching non-members are appropriate.
>
>> Those who are CC'ed in the multi-stakeholder forum are people who
>> were nominated/chosen for .mu related discussions.
> Yes, and they should expect to receive the occasional email from a
> designated MIU member. They should not expect to be included in any
> group discussion, or have people's random opinions shouted at them.
>
>> The emails did not reach other ministries having nothing to do with
>> the .mu related discussions.
> I can't judge that, but I have noticed some emails with a number of
> govmu recipients.
>
>> The emails were relevant to the .mu ccTLD discussions.
> Just because they were relevant to the discussions, doesn't mean that
> they need to be shared outside of the list. Communications with
> anybody off the list should be direct and have a purpose, including
> them as a CC does not seem appropriate.
>
>> I would thus, not call those as spam.
> Either you are ignoring the bad behaviour on the MIU list, or you
> think it's acceptable.
>
> Here's an example: This email
> <http://lists.elandnews.com/archive/mauritius/internet-users/2015/05/1449.html>
> (part of a thread of similar emails), was sent to 28 recipients,
> including
> - 8 govmu addresses
> - 2 ncb addresses,
> - icta, mauritiustelecom, lexpress
>
> This is spam, even if you agree with the contents. Keep in mind that
> nobody ever thinks their own emails are spam...
>
>> Neither I would call those as sending emails to 'government'. Some
>> government officials are part of the multi-stakeholder forum but they
>> are not the Government.
> Ok, I don't know what word to use to describe the people in question.
> Let's split the world into two groups: MIU members, and everybody
> else. Anybody who is not a MIU member, shouldn't be included on MIU
> emails.
>
>> Some government & non-government officials expressed a displeasure at
>> the emails. There is a code of ethics[1] for civil servants that
>> dictates how to respond to public:
> Yes, but wasting people's time with spammy emails is bad.
>
>> Should public stop asking questions because it displeases some people?
> No, but the MIU enabling low quality spammy emails isn't helpful.
>
>> People should realize whom to CC when replying to emails. CC'ing
>> other people when replying to the list only should be avoided.
> People *should* realise whom to CC, but they don't. This is a common
> problem in mailing lists, and there are solutions, but first we need
> to accept that there is a problem.
>
>> I agree that people should take care when they click [Reply All].
> I also agree, but that doesn't solve anything.
>
> Dan.
>
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> Daniel Laeng
> Software Developer
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Received on Mon Jun 15 2015 - 16:29:03 PST